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Re: An "Advanced" board is being added to the Oekaki soon!

Postby SelkiesSong » Sun Aug 04, 2013 4:21 am

tinydoodles wrote:
thorrissia wrote:I have actually seen several drawings in advanced that aren't realism, so I wouldn't worry too much about this.

Well, the advanced board doesn't exist yet, so I'm assuming that you mean the intermediate board as it is currently?? Because you're right, there's plently of more stylized artwork in that board, what I'm saying is that it's hard for more cartoony artwork to fit the parameters of the advanced board, no matter how hard the artist has worked.


Nope, pretty sure they're talking about the advanced board. It's been up since the afternoon this was posted. :)
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Re: An "Advanced" board is being added to the Oekaki soon!

Postby tinydoodles » Sun Aug 04, 2013 4:24 am

Really? Wow, I didn't know that, sorry!!
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Re: An "Advanced" board is being added to the Oekaki soon!

Postby Shadowflight13 » Sun Aug 04, 2013 4:42 am

This seems like a pretty good idea to me. :) But the parameters confuse me, so I'm just going to keep posting everything in Beginners and the mods can move it if they feel like it. XD
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Re: An "Advanced" board is being added to the Oekaki soon!

Postby SilverStärlight » Sun Aug 04, 2013 4:52 am

Shadowflight13 wrote:This seems like a pretty good idea to me. :) But the parameters confuse me, so I'm just going to keep posting everything in Beginners and the mods can move it if they feel like it. XD

That's what I plan on doing, too. xD Unless someone were to specifically tell me to STOP POSTING UNDER BEGINNERS or something, that's where I'll be posting all my pictures by default. That way, I can avoid embarrassing myself by posting on a board above my level by mistake.

I like how I've been seeing the occasional drawing that isn't realism on the Advanced board. It's perfect; they include more than just one style there. :D
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Re: An "Advanced" board is being added to the Oekaki soon!

Postby fifetastic » Sun Aug 04, 2013 6:03 am

I definitely think this will be beneficial to the art community here - Of course my work will still be in Beginners' (4 years later...) But there are plenty of others who will benefit :)
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Re: An "Advanced" board is being added to the Oekaki soon!

Postby Cherry » Sun Aug 04, 2013 1:50 pm

Oops! I accidentally posted this before I was ready.

I'm not really sure how this new board offends people as often as it has. It seems to me this is a good thing.
I've seen people complain about "how rude this is" or how "art is subjective." Yes, it is, but you can tell when someone is good enough to be considered intermediate (no matter how cartoony they make their cat drawing) because they understand Oekaki well, add details that beginner artists don't even see, and even just portray their subject with an artistic mind. Beginners don't have that.
But some are starting to (or do, but may lack a skill such as shading or good understanding of Oekaki or something) but since the qualifications are much or somewhat lower, they can now get in. I think that that's a good thing!
And if you really think that it's challenging how good you are at drawing, challenge yourself and get better! (I need to take my own advice, haha.;))

Advanced art is to make a place for art that tends to outshine the real intermediate art, so now you can see the real 'middle artists'! (Who are those who need critique and comments and likes more than the advanced do. [Of course, it's fine to congratulate an artist who made it! And if you'd rather post there, that's fine. ^^])

I think some people -I have no one in mind particularly, so please don't get offended- feel threatened by the advanced category, because they feel like their work is good but that the CS staff doesn't feel that way, or prefers art that is "better" and has a bias against them, either for no reason at all, or they were moved from one category to a lower one.
That isn't really the case. If you're in between, you're in between, which isn't bad at all. You're growing!
If you're insulted by the change you most likely feel bad for others, feel insulted that intermediate isn't considered best anymore which makes you suddenly blah, or you think you're better than you really are, and that could be why your art was moved. I doubt anyone is the last one, though. I know that was really blunt, so sorry. Really, if you're posting in intermediate for more views, you're going to be the one with a big head. It's okay to think you're good at something, but remember why you're posting in intermediate, because you feel you're good enough, or because you feel like more views.

Or, maybe, (and I can sympathize with this and I'm sure it is the main viewpoint) is that you've been working hard and see an improvement in your art and think you should belong in intermediate, but the guidelines don't think so -or someone in the comments doesn't, which is worse- but now, think of this as your chance! A big break!

Do you do Oekaki for you, or potential fans? Critique, or compliments? If you're doing it for fame or adoring fans, then... Take a break, and look through the advanced section. Don't they deserve to be in there? Aren't they amazing?
If you do art for the way it itself makes you feel -and not all of the 'wows!' you're getting- then you are a real artist. (Yes, beginners, that includes you. [Please note I'm a beginner as well.])
And every single real artist deserves in there too. It only takes time. So if you want to make it, break a lead!
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Re: An "Advanced" board is being added to the Oekaki soon!

Postby Kodabomb » Sun Aug 04, 2013 3:03 pm

I knew this day would come! ;u;
I think now I can post in Intermediate I guess; I don't usually because people are better. But if Intermediate's now in the middle... YAY!
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Re: An "Advanced" board is being added to the Oekaki soon!

Postby Oliverstorm » Sun Aug 04, 2013 5:36 pm

This is great!! Thanks!
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Re: An "Advanced" board is being added to the Oekaki soon!

Postby SplashofOrangeJuice » Sun Aug 04, 2013 7:00 pm

I like this idea, and I'm eager to see where it goes. Feel free to use any of my art as examples c:

I also read the first few pages, and I see where some users are comming from with the negative view of this change. The thing is, I even view my art negatively at times, even my good pieces. I am always flustered when I receive a lot of votes, and features always surprise me. Some of you would say I am a good artist, others are impressed by my work. I think whats important though is your own view of your art. Yes support for your art is great, and some people need that to feel like they are good. I know I'm one of those people. I strive off of the opinions of others. This really isn't to degrade anyone though, its to better even the art boards and get more art /seen/. If you are unhappy about your art - do something about it. Practice to improve. I do all the time, and my gallery is (sometimes) a reflection of that. (I admit I have many doodles.) Just be artistic on your own where you qualify so your art can be noticed more. If a beginner's piece is placed among the advanced, it wont hardly get noticed. This is a good change, and even if you disagree, thats okay. Evaluate yourself though, and place your art where you feel comfortable. A lot of my art is in sketches because that's where I feel safe - I challenge you to find your safe zone, and stop fighting this adjustment. <3 everyone is and can be good in their own ways and their own eyes, even in the eyes if others. You just have to aspire for it. ★ <3
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Re: An "Advanced" board is being added to the Oekaki soon!

Postby Xzile » Mon Aug 05, 2013 3:13 am

SplashofOrangeJuice wrote:I like this idea, and I'm eager to see where it goes. Feel free to use any of my art as examples c:

I also read the first few pages, and I see where some users are comming from with the negative view of this change. The thing is, I even view my art negatively at times, even my good pieces. I am always flustered when I receive a lot of votes, and features always surprise me. Some of you would say I am a good artist, others are impressed by my work. I think whats important though is your own view of your art. Yes support for your art is great, and some people need that to feel like they are good. I know I'm one of those people. I strive off of the opinions of others. This really isn't to degrade anyone though, its to better even the art boards and get more art /seen/. If you are unhappy about your art - do something about it. Practice to improve. I do all the time, and my gallery is (sometimes) a reflection of that. (I admit I have many doodles.) Just be artistic on your own where you qualify so your art can be noticed more. If a beginner's piece is placed among the advanced, it wont hardly get noticed. This is a good change, and even if you disagree, thats okay. Evaluate yourself though, and place your art where you feel comfortable. A lot of my art is in sketches because that's where I feel safe - I challenge you to find your safe zone, and stop fighting this adjustment. <3 everyone is and can be good in their own ways and their own eyes, even in the eyes if others. You just have to aspire for it. ★ <3



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