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Re: the firmament

Postby metonymy » Tue Nov 29, 2016 8:05 pm

here's a bit of an interesting thing for you to ponder: the difference in believing the bible, and believing that every single word of it must be exactly literal. especially when we have a God who talks to us, constantly, in parables.

there is more written on that subject by greater thinkers than myself, frankly. i would consider 'mere christianity' to be a good primer on the faith as a whole, and i agree with lewis' idea of what, exactly, the bible is. but you will, as i said, find people willing to take down heretical reductivist oversimplification of scripture into pure literal storybook far more elegantly than i could ever care to. but i am going to go ahead and guess that because you see the bible as purely literal, you have no need for anyone's commentary - not our modern theological thinkers, not our celebrated minds such as st. thomas aquinas, not the collected wisdom of the church (in whatever variety you choose).

here is not a good place for a debate as to what, exactly, scripture is.

but i can tell you with absolute certainty that the vast majority of christians do not believe in a flat earth and do not believe in geocentrism, and have not done so for centuries, to the point where most consider these views heretical.

interested parties can easily find this verified by the vatican, the archbishop of canterbury, the orthodox ecumenical patriarch, modern theologians and christian apologists, medieval theologians and christian apologists, most historians familiar with the name galileo and what he meant to western civilization, most historians familiar with parmenides and or hesiod as there's a bit of a toss-up among the greeks, and your local pastor in 99.99% of cases.

there is no more to be said. have a good night.
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Re: the firmament

Postby Happily Wrathful » Tue Nov 29, 2016 9:34 pm

metonymy wrote:here's a bit of an interesting thing for you to ponder: the difference in believing the bible, and believing that every single word of it must be exactly literal. especially when we have a God who talks to us, constantly, in parables.

there is more written on that subject by greater thinkers than myself, frankly. i would consider 'mere christianity' to be a good primer on the faith as a whole, and i agree with lewis' idea of what, exactly, the bible is. but you will, as i said, find people willing to take down heretical reductivist oversimplification of scripture into pure literal storybook far more elegantly than i could ever care to. but i am going to go ahead and guess that because you see the bible as purely literal, you have no need for anyone's commentary - not our modern theological thinkers, not our celebrated minds such as st. thomas aquinas, not the collected wisdom of the church (in whatever variety you choose).

here is not a good place for a debate as to what, exactly, scripture is.

but i can tell you with absolute certainty that the vast majority of christians do not believe in a flat earth and do not believe in geocentrism, and have not done so for centuries, to the point where most consider these views heretical.

interested parties can easily find this verified by the vatican, the archbishop of canterbury, the orthodox ecumenical patriarch, modern theologians and christian apologists, medieval theologians and christian apologists, most historians familiar with the name galileo and what he meant to western civilization, most historians familiar with parmenides and or hesiod as there's a bit of a toss-up among the greeks, and your local pastor in 99.99% of cases.

there is no more to be said. have a good night.


like i said i dont want to get into a debate so i will let you have your opinions and i will have mine <3 thank you and have a lovely night
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Re: the firmament

Postby Spacejump zoroark » Wed Nov 30, 2016 12:05 am

Neat art, but,

Ehhhhhhh why do you always post controversial art!
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Re: the firmament

Postby cvpidxpng » Wed Nov 30, 2016 12:29 am

This is quickly why I became an atheist due to the ever lying bible _-_
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Re: the firmament

Postby Ovacalix » Wed Nov 30, 2016 1:34 am

333lk22 wrote:
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    This has broken my soul sorry there's no hope...

    ...hope for me explaining how astonishing the art is!!! I love the colors, though I'd love to see a little more substance to it. Cant wait to see how you advance in the future. : 3


wow <3 i didnt expect any positiveness from anyone <3 thank you <3 i though people would just call me crazy O.o


    Oh no, I wholly do not agree with your opinion. Don't get me wrong. I was just saying the art is an interesting concept itself. You know considering the Bible was completed in about 100 A.D. And we've had a couple hundred years[understatement of the century??] to learn more about the world we live on. It's fun to consider that people were so afraid of the unknown that scripture was written implying that if they walked too far they'd fall off the face of the earth. But that's just my perception of it, believe what you will.Interesting story material I might add. I wonder what would happen to a flat planet to compensate for the 7 billion+ Individuals that live there? What if one side was heavier than the other and broke off? What if Sköll and Hati didn't chase the sun and the moon across the sky? Are there really terrifying monsters in the ocean? I guess we'll never know....

    seriously though keep it up, never stop art dude, maybe a couple years down the road you should revisit this idea and do like a 'then vs. now' meme.
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Re: the firmament

Postby DoctorDraca » Wed Nov 30, 2016 3:42 am

The Oekaki boards are for art, not random discussions.

Stop posting art if all you want to do is to start arguments and fight with people. This is not acceptable.
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