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the firmament

Postby Happily Wrathful » Fri Oct 14, 2016 4:29 pm

Then God said, "Let there be a space between the waters, to separate the waters of the heavens from the waters of the earth."

Genesis 1:6

1 Chronicles 16:30: “He has fixed the earth firm, immovable.”
Psalm 93:1: “Thou hast fixed the earth immovable and firm ...”
Psalm 96:10: “He has fixed the earth firm, immovable ...”
Psalm 104:5: “Thou didst fix the earth on its foundation so that it never can be shaken.”
Isaiah 45:18: “...who made the earth and fashioned it, and himself fixed it fast...”

Job 9:8, “...who by himself spread out the heavens [shamayim]...”
Psalm 19:1, “The heavens [shamayim] tell out the glory of God, the vault of heaven [raqiya] reveals his handiwork.”
Psalm 102:25, “...the heavens [shamayim] were thy handiwork.”
Isaiah 45:12, “I, with my own hands, stretched out the heavens [shamayim] and caused all their host to shine...”
Isaiah 48:13, “...with my right hand I formed the expanse of the sky [shamayim]...”

too much proof from God sorry people who think im crazy my God has told me the earth isnt round
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Re: the firmament

Postby cvpidxpng » Sun Oct 16, 2016 4:25 am

But if the earth couldn't move, there wouldn't be season or days.
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Re: the firmament

Postby Happily Wrathful » Sun Oct 16, 2016 6:45 am

Rainbowpitbull wrote:But if the earth couldn't move, there wouldn't be season or days.



not if the sun moved around us c:
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Re: the firmament

Postby Ovacalix » Tue Nov 29, 2016 12:46 pm

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    ...hope for me explaining how astonishing the art is!!! I love the colors, though I'd love to see a little more substance to it. Cant wait to see how you advance in the future. : 3
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Re: the firmament

Postby metonymy » Tue Nov 29, 2016 12:51 pm

obviously missing the turtle underneath it

rather nice illustration of passe heresy though. i would advise against trying to start an all-out debate on the topic in the oekaki; this is probably more suited to the discussion forum. it's a good piece for the short time though, and i would be very interested to see what you do with more time.
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Re: the firmament

Postby Thelastsilhouette » Tue Nov 29, 2016 2:20 pm

That's a weird looking fish
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Re: the firmament

Postby CreativeUsername.jpg » Tue Nov 29, 2016 6:44 pm

I'm sorry, but the earth is not flat. There is no scientific evidence that the earth is flat, and if it was, water would leak off the edges of the planet, it would be impossible to travel in a full circle around the globe, and the planet would have no mantel or core, as it would be too thin. Water naturally circulates around the planet following ocean currents and is constantly moving and changing due to the water cycle, but it is never lost. One can begin and end a journey in the same place if they circle the globe, a feat first accomplished by the Army Air Service in 1924, and the earth has enormous, spherical upper and lower mantles and a core.

The sun does not revolve around the earth; it is the center of our solar system, and the earth is one of the eight planets that orbit around it. The sun's gravitational pull results in that orbit, due largely to the sun's enormous size, and the earth cannot generate the amount of force it would take to pull the much larger sun into its orbit. In fact, an estimated 1.3 million earths could fit into the sun. The sun is a massive star, yet compared to other stars that have been discovered in the Milky Way, it is at a medium size for its kind!

I encourage you to research these topics as well, as nature and the solar system are both fascinating subjects!
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Re: the firmament

Postby Happily Wrathful » Tue Nov 29, 2016 7:19 pm

hey hey guess what..... you have no proof the earth is round either <3



TheLastSilhouette wrote:That's a weird looking fish


yes a fishhhy <3

metonymy wrote:obviously missing the turtle underneath it

rather nice illustration of passe heresy though. i would advise against trying to start an all-out debate on the topic in the oekaki; this is probably more suited to the discussion forum. it's a good piece for the short time though, and i would be very interested to see what you do with more time.


ya i know D: im just so bad at not starting debates im trying not to <3 thank you though

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    ...hope for me explaining how astonishing the art is!!! I love the colors, though I'd love to see a little more substance to it. Cant wait to see how you advance in the future. : 3


wow <3 i didnt expect any positiveness from anyone <3 thank you <3 i though people would just call me crazy O.o
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Re: the firmament

Postby metonymy » Tue Nov 29, 2016 7:39 pm

unfortunately the controversy may come to you if one presses the subject tbqh. this site has a large christian population and i imagine many of them are similarly unimpressed to see this pop up with the name of christianity attached to it. geocentrism has been passe for quite a few centuries; a flat earth, for quite a few millennia, if you ask the ancient greeks. neither system started out as christianity, and neither system makes terribly good christianity. (an aside because i can already hear one "but what about" - medieval scholarship, you must understand, is not so much about trying to figure out the truth around us, but rather categorizing that truth and trying to get it all to work within the same framework and system. when you've got ancient greek, ancient roman, late roman, anglo-saxon, viking, jewish, frank, middle eastern, muslim, pagan, indian, chinese, - okay, you get the idea. medieval scholars were more interested in making this all fit together, somehow. they did not create a tasty 7 layer dip of truth. it was more like a kitchen sink leftover scramble of sadness.) this, for the record, is not christianity. it hasn't been christianity since around 1600, and that's being generous. that is just geocentrism; a flat earth has been disproven much more thoroughly and actually was never common knowledge among basically any western civ peoples at any time, and i only say western civ because that is what i have been taught - however it is easily seen in any place that has a harbor, and ships big enough to see coming on the horizon, which is... bow-shaped, even to the human eye. i could go on here but, again, trying to avoid a full-drawn debate, and i'm getting the oddest feeling that whatever i may bring up will be pooh-poohed as lies and slander anyhow.
just your friendly reminder that although biblical verses are being used, this is not christian belief. believe me, the vatican worked this out quite thoroughly some time ago. you can ask them for full details. ;)

one is free to express whichever position one so chooses on these boards, and i do not wish to start a big debate here in the least. but if one expresses strange opinions and hitches a certain philosophical term to them, it should be no surprise when someone like me comes by and says to the public that this is not standard by any means. you are free to believe as you choose; i will bother this thread no longer. i merely felt the need to make a clear and explicit point about the theology brought up here under a certain name.

an interesting piece of art nonetheless.
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Re: the firmament

Postby Happily Wrathful » Tue Nov 29, 2016 7:45 pm

metonymy wrote:unfortunately the controversy may come to you if one presses the subject tbqh. this site has a large christian population and i imagine many of them are similarly unimpressed to see this pop up with the name of christianity attached to it. geocentrism has been passe for quite a few centuries; a flat earth, for quite a few millennia, if you ask the ancient greeks. neither system started out as christianity, and neither system makes terribly good christianity. (an aside because i can already hear one "but what about" - medieval scholarship, you must understand, is not so much about trying to figure out the truth around us, but rather categorizing that truth and trying to get it all to work within the same framework and system. when you've got ancient greek, ancient roman, late roman, anglo-saxon, viking, jewish, frank, middle eastern, muslim, pagan, indian, chinese, - okay, you get the idea. medieval scholars were more interested in making this all fit together, somehow. they did not create a tasty 7 layer dip of truth. it was more like a kitchen sink leftover scramble of sadness.) this, for the record, is not christianity. it hasn't been christianity since around 1600, and that's being generous. that is just geocentrism; a flat earth has been disproven much more thoroughly and actually was never common knowledge among basically any western civ peoples at any time, and i only say western civ because that is what i have been taught - however it is easily seen in any place that has a harbor, and ships big enough to see coming on the horizon, which is... bow-shaped, even to the human eye. i could go on here but, again, trying to avoid a full-drawn debate, and i'm getting the oddest feeling that whatever i may bring up will be pooh-poohed as lies and slander anyhow.
just your friendly reminder that although biblical verses are being used, this is not christian belief. believe me, the vatican worked this out quite thoroughly some time ago. you can ask them for full details. ;)

one is free to express whichever position one so chooses on these boards, and i do not wish to start a big debate here in the least. but if one expresses strange opinions and hitches a certain philosophical term to them, it should be no surprise when someone like me comes by and says to the public that this is not standard by any means. you are free to believe as you choose; i will bother this thread no longer. i merely felt the need to make a clear and explicit point about the theology brought up here under a certain name.

an interesting piece of art nonetheless.


well anyone who doesnt believe in the bible to me doesnt seem a Christian but i understand that many people are just uninformed but honestly i wasnt expecting anyone to believe me i just wanted to draw my beliefs <3 i do declare that this is Christian belief because its in the bible so please unless you know about the bible and Christians dont preach is not trying to be rude but if you do not trust the bible you are NOT Christian im sorry but thats truth. <3 i realize the verses i used wernt the best but i couldnt think of any off the top of my head
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