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Redlined for Shadow ^^ by Kite

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Redlined for Shadow ^^

Postby Kite » Sat Nov 05, 2011 5:46 pm

Hi there! I though, overall, this was actually fairly good at first, even before the redline! Here are some small (but detailed) pointers on drawing dogs and wolves:

The main problem here was the back legs, which were too stiff, and needed to be elongated, and the head, which was a tad too big, unless you were going for the cartoonism effect. The tail also needed to be a bit bigger, and the feet flatter because they are being stood on, and the weight of the body is pressing them down.

One way to get a good head start on drawing a sketch is to draw the basic body shapes in ovals, like i showed here. There is one main body cirlce which is pretty much round, depending on the position that the wolf is in, and then two ovals for shoulders and back thighs beside it, where the legs are attached. Above the front shoulder blade is a little bump sticking up where its arm moves back and forth. The tail is just relative, and can really be anywhere from as short as the main body circle, to as long as the whole wolfs body, not including the neck. Speaking of the neck... since the wolf (or dog, im just calling it a wolf) has a scruff on its neck to keep warm, and just because of its dense chest fur, the chest has to be puffed out a little more, to make it seem fuzzier.

Around the outside of the actual redline, I drew some pointers on other body angles/parts. On the bottom left is a closeup of the eye, which you can't really see on here very well, but for future reference, the (realistic) wolf eye is more in the shape of an egg than a harsh-lined shape. It can change from where the wolf is looking; for example, if the wolf is looking up, the eye will come to more of a point on the top, and get bigger. if it's looking to the side, it will come the a point the opposite side it is looking towards. (confusing, right?)

Next to that is the front body shot, which isnt very important. I was just trying to show the relative size of the ears to the head, and the leg length to the body height. Above that is the side head shot, which shows the position of the eye, and length of the nose relative to its head. I didn't make the head have a lower lip jutting out underneath the top of the jaw, but there is one xD (sorry bout that!) The eye is actually pretty small compared to the rest of the wolf, and so is the nose, which sticks out a tiny bit from the mouth. The ears are a little bigger as well, which isnt as important, since the ear size of dogs and wolves can actually vary quite a bit, especially in dogs.

I also wrote some tips in (as you can probably tell xD) and I apologize for my awful handwriting; it's hard to write with a mousepad! Some of them include bending the back down a bit, because in your lineart the back is a straight line across, whereas it usually slopes down towards the haunches. Also, the nose is bent down, and then goes up again at the nose, creating some depth to the realism of the face. The body was a bit long, so I shortened it, and the feet have to be flatter.

Anyways, I will stop my incessant rambling, so you can stop reading it xD
Hope this helped a bit! <3, neonkiwi
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Re: Redlined for Shadow ^^

Postby Susiron » Sat Nov 05, 2011 5:58 pm

This is actually a pretty decent redline, especially around the front legs and body shape.
I'm also happy to see someone get the eyes right.

But a couple of things-- the wolf should have a chin. Wolf faces are very angular, but his lower jaw shouldn't disappear into his jowl completely. : U -- http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2716/419 ... f0bd59.jpg
The paws are also very strange, with random toes. -- viewtopic.php?f=33&t=858593

While you seem to have the anatomy of the forelegs pretty well done, your hind legs are very stiff. Try bringing the knee forward, and making the slope at the back of the femur/shin more extreme. C:
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Re: Redlined for Shadow ^^

Postby Kite » Sat Nov 05, 2011 6:01 pm

Susiron wrote:This is actually a pretty decent redline, especially around the front legs and body shape.
I'm also happy to see someone get the eyes right.

But a couple of things-- the wolf should have a chin. Wolf faces are very angular, but his lower jaw shouldn't disappear into his jowl completely. : U -- http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2716/419 ... f0bd59.jpg
The paws are also very strange, with random toes. -- viewtopic.php?f=33&t=858593

While you seem to have the anatomy of the forelegs pretty well done, your hind legs are very stiff. Try bringing the knee forward, and making the slope at the back of the femur/shin more extreme. C:


i know about the missing chin, i mentioned it in the reallyreallyreally long thingy i wrote xD thats just how i draw though xD
i have trouble with feet, and these are probably the worst feet i have ever drawn, so yes, i completely agree with you :lol:
thank you for the critique, i will change that soon! ^^
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Re: Redlined for Shadow ^^

Postby Susiron » Sat Nov 05, 2011 6:05 pm

neonkiwi wrote:
Susiron wrote:This is actually a pretty decent redline, especially around the front legs and body shape.
I'm also happy to see someone get the eyes right.

But a couple of things-- the wolf should have a chin. Wolf faces are very angular, but his lower jaw shouldn't disappear into his jowl completely. : U -- http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2716/419 ... f0bd59.jpg
The paws are also very strange, with random toes. -- viewtopic.php?f=33&t=858593

While you seem to have the anatomy of the forelegs pretty well done, your hind legs are very stiff. Try bringing the knee forward, and making the slope at the back of the femur/shin more extreme. C:


i know about the missing chin, i mentioned it in the reallyreallyreally long thingy i wrote xD thats just how i draw though xD
i have trouble with feet, and these are probably the worst feet i have ever drawn, so yes, i completely agree with you :lol:
thank you for the critique, i will change that soon! ^^


Ah, I have ADD and only skim-read, so I must have skipped over it. xDD
Completely understandable, though-- I'm the opposite-- I usually do too much chin, LOL

Feet can sure be a real pain. x3 -- At least they're easier than human hands, though, oh boy. xD

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Re: Redlined for Shadow ^^

Postby Kite » Sat Nov 05, 2011 6:06 pm

Susiron wrote:
neonkiwi wrote:
Susiron wrote:This is actually a pretty decent redline, especially around the front legs and body shape.
I'm also happy to see someone get the eyes right.

But a couple of things-- the wolf should have a chin. Wolf faces are very angular, but his lower jaw shouldn't disappear into his jowl completely. : U -- http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2716/419 ... f0bd59.jpg
The paws are also very strange, with random toes. -- viewtopic.php?f=33&t=858593

While you seem to have the anatomy of the forelegs pretty well done, your hind legs are very stiff. Try bringing the knee forward, and making the slope at the back of the femur/shin more extreme. C:


i know about the missing chin, i mentioned it in the reallyreallyreally long thingy i wrote xD thats just how i draw though xD
i have trouble with feet, and these are probably the worst feet i have ever drawn, so yes, i completely agree with you :lol:
thank you for the critique, i will change that soon! ^^


Ah, I have ADD and only skim-read, so I must have skipped over it. xDD
Completely understandable, though-- I'm the opposite-- I usually do too much chin, LOL

Feet can sure be a real pain. x3 -- At least they're easier than human hands, though, oh boy. xD

C:

lol agreed xD im bad at everything about humans! thats wny i focus on dogs...
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Re: Redlined for Shadow ^^

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Re: Redlined for Shadow ^^

Postby Kite » Sun Nov 06, 2011 9:08 am

Shadowhunter'sDream wrote:Holy crap xD but thanks guys

wut, the REALLY detailed-ness? oh, yeah. sorry bout that xD
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