2018 CS Birthday: Pet, Item, & Event Discussion

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Re: 2018 CS Birthday: Pet, Item, & Event Discussion

Postby Avianahelena » Thu Apr 12, 2018 2:12 pm

Coalchaser wrote:The issue was with the designs of the dragons being based on the book series. The lines themselves are fine; they were not traced. However, the fact that the outcomes were based on specific characters combined with the growth stages matching the growth of the dragons in the books created a copyright issue, especially since they were declared to be based on the series by the artist.

This was a long time ago now and my mind is a bit fuzzy on the details, so please correct me if I'm remembering something incorrectly. I just want to clarify that the copyright issue doesn't affect the use of the lines. I believe malk made the decision to stop using the dragon lines for a while because of the copyright issue, and then ended up retiring so we never saw the lines return.


Thanks, Coalchaser.
So based on this, can we tentatively predict that the new malk dragons will grow as normal?
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Re: 2018 CS Birthday: Pet, Item, & Event Discussion

Postby ElementalInsanity » Thu Apr 12, 2018 2:13 pm

nickjr wrote:ZEL's a better fountain than me. I have 0 first-hand knowledge of stuff that happened from April 2010 to August 2011. And a lot of juicy stuff happened then, apparently xD

I'm not familiar with dragon depiction in fiction/art, but just from my head I can think of various growth progressions.

Hatching - tiny? medium? large? fully formed? no wings? no scales/feathers/etc? no teeth? tail size? how to break out of shell--by beak? teeth? head? all at once like an explosion? or maybe they just come into being lol
Growing - follows from hatchling form: order of development of various features (wings last? first?)
Adult - I mean we can see even on CS that there are various possible depictions of an adult dragon lol

If these weren't just pictures, then we could also get into dragon behavior/socializing/rearing: group species? rear the child "tenderly" or "forcefully" (labels that a human would give, for ease of understanding)? non-adult dragon behavior--needy? independent? when?

There really isn't a "typical dragon" or "generic dragon" unless you narrow down which culture/area you're talking about (we can even see this in the various dragon types on CS)

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Haha, you still are, though. I've been technically on this site since 08 but I know nothing about the nice details of everything and drama and etc that's happened. ^^"

There's a lot of room for dragons, I meant that I've seen a lot that are sort of similar to the malk dragons just drawn from people who are avid dragon lovers: long tail, wings like that, four legs, etc. (tbh it's my favorite sort of dragon to see so I have personal fondness for any dragon like it) So I guess I'm wondering why these are copying the AOF dragons in their growth. ^^ I never read the books myself so I wouldn't know.

Coalchaser wrote:The issue was with the designs of the dragons being based on the book series. The lines themselves are fine; they were not traced. However, the fact that the outcomes were based on specific characters combined with the growth stages matching the growth of the dragons in the books created a copyright issue, especially since they were declared to be based on the series by the artist.

This was a long time ago now and my mind is a bit fuzzy on the details, so please correct me if I'm remembering something incorrectly. I just want to clarify that the copyright issue doesn't affect the use of the lines. I believe malk made the decision to stop using the dragon lines for a while because of the copyright issue, and then ended up retiring so we never saw the lines return.


From what I've been reading up on it this sounds about like what happened. ^_^
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Re: 2018 CS Birthday: Pet, Item, & Event Discussion

Postby Clawdina » Thu Apr 12, 2018 2:19 pm

ElementalInsanity wrote:
nickjr wrote:ZEL's a better fountain than me. I have 0 first-hand knowledge of stuff that happened from April 2010 to August 2011. And a lot of juicy stuff happened then, apparently xD

I'm not familiar with dragon depiction in fiction/art, but just from my head I can think of various growth progressions.

Hatching - tiny? medium? large? fully formed? no wings? no scales/feathers/etc? no teeth? tail size? how to break out of shell--by beak? teeth? head? all at once like an explosion? or maybe they just come into being lol
Growing - follows from hatchling form: order of development of various features (wings last? first?)
Adult - I mean we can see even on CS that there are various possible depictions of an adult dragon lol

If these weren't just pictures, then we could also get into dragon behavior/socializing/rearing: group species? rear the child "tenderly" or "forcefully" (labels that a human would give, for ease of understanding)? non-adult dragon behavior--needy? independent? when?

There really isn't a "typical dragon" or "generic dragon" unless you narrow down which culture/area you're talking about (we can even see this in the various dragon types on CS)

@ person above
Thank you for providing the links!!

Haha, you still are, though. I've been technically on this site since 08 but I know nothing about the nice details of everything and drama and etc that's happened. ^^"

There's a lot of room for dragons, I meant that I've seen a lot that are sort of similar to the malk dragons just drawn from people who are avid dragon lovers: long tail, wings like that, four legs, etc. (tbh it's my favorite sort of dragon to see so I have personal fondness for any dragon like it) So I guess I'm wondering why these are copying the AOF dragons in their growth. ^^ I never read the books myself so I wouldn't know.

Coalchaser wrote:The issue was with the designs of the dragons being based on the book series. The lines themselves are fine; they were not traced. However, the fact that the outcomes were based on specific characters combined with the growth stages matching the growth of the dragons in the books created a copyright issue, especially since they were declared to be based on the series by the artist.

This was a long time ago now and my mind is a bit fuzzy on the details, so please correct me if I'm remembering something incorrectly. I just want to clarify that the copyright issue doesn't affect the use of the lines. I believe malk made the decision to stop using the dragon lines for a while because of the copyright issue, and then ended up retiring so we never saw the lines return.


From what I've been reading up on it this sounds about like what happened. ^_^


The big issue with the how growth is because when AuRon, Wistala, and Copper grow up (in the books), they hatch with an egg horn that the dragonets normally break off, and the hatch without wings. As they grow, their wings grow with them, then there's a stage in their life when their wings are fully developed, and the dragons normally tear the skin so the wings can emerge c:
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Re: 2018 CS Birthday: Pet, Item, & Event Discussion

Postby 'Possum » Thu Apr 12, 2018 2:20 pm

I had always wished for a Malk Dragon in the sitting up stage as a PPS. They are so much fun to dress up at that stage.
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Re: 2018 CS Birthday: Pet, Item, & Event Discussion

Postby DBD » Thu Apr 12, 2018 2:27 pm

Anyone recall what old lineart this one is from? I have forgotten.
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Re: 2018 CS Birthday: Pet, Item, & Event Discussion

Postby Gwyneira » Thu Apr 12, 2018 2:27 pm

Coalchaser wrote:The issue was with the designs of the dragons being based on the book series. The lines themselves are fine; they were not traced. However, the fact that the outcomes were based on specific characters combined with the growth stages matching the growth of the dragons in the books created a copyright issue, especially since they were declared to be based on the series by the artist.

This was a long time ago now and my mind is a bit fuzzy on the details, so please correct me if I'm remembering something incorrectly. I just want to clarify that the copyright issue doesn't affect the use of the lines. I believe malk made the decision to stop using the dragon lines for a while because of the copyright issue, and then ended up retiring so we never saw the lines return.


Thank you! This clears up a lot of my confusion and my worries! It's good to hear that the copyright issue doesn't have to do with the lines. These have to be my favorite lines on the site and I am extremely happy to see them come back!
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Re: 2018 CS Birthday: Pet, Item, & Event Discussion

Postby Coalchaser » Thu Apr 12, 2018 2:29 pm

ligerteeth wrote:Anyone recall what old lineart this one is from? I have forgotten.
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It's the tess dragon. C:
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Re: 2018 CS Birthday: Pet, Item, & Event Discussion

Postby DBD » Thu Apr 12, 2018 2:32 pm

Coalchaser wrote:
ligerteeth wrote:Anyone recall what old lineart this one is from? I have forgotten.
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It's the tess dragon. C:

Aha! I knew I’ve seen it before! Thank you!
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Re: 2018 CS Birthday: Pet, Item, & Event Discussion

Postby TheSongOfTheStars » Thu Apr 12, 2018 2:43 pm

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Re: 2018 CS Birthday: Pet, Item, & Event Discussion

Postby dillydallydarlene » Thu Apr 12, 2018 2:48 pm

....are all the dragons uncommon.....did I just pay a boatload for a bunch of uncommon........I gave away so many pets for these......
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