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Dogons: Temporary Hiatus by muttgirl310

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Dogons: Temporary Hiatus

Postby muttgirl310 » Fri Jan 06, 2017 6:46 am

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Welcome to the Dogon Adoption Center where these amazing creatures are found new homes!

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Species Information and Rules / Staff / Adoption and Customs / Currency, Store and Bank / Affiliates / Traits and Rarities




Updates:
4/25/18-
Temporary Hiatus Please see the post here for more details

3/5/18- There has been a change to the layout of the main thread as well as some rule changes!

Current has found a new place for us to Explore and it looks like some new dogons as well!

4/13/17 -Uh Oh, Where did Current get off to? Looks like he went to set something up...
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Species Information:
The Dogon is a species as old as time, with first written history of them in ancient Greece. They were seen living on the outskirts of the cities, foraging inside on the streets but mostly hunting for themselves. The people of Greece soon discovered the existence of these creatures and rather than enjoy them, they decided to hunt them for exotic dishes, to use the scales in jewelry and as alluring pets. The Dogons had to scatter as a response in order to ensure their survival. They fled to the tallest mountains and some even dove underwater in search of a safe place to live. Some Dogons have begun to trust humans once more and some of them even willingly put themselves into their care. Now the humans are attempting to win back the trust of these beautiful creatures. While they may look unnerving with their dragon side they are really just big cuddlers and are more like a dog in that way.

Rules:
General Rules:
*Failure to comply may lead to warnings, strikes or bans from the species*
-This is a closed species so you may not create your own
-They may be used off site as long as you credit and link back to the main thread and artists who designed them
-If you do not wish to keep your dogon anymore, or wish to gift it to another user, you must message muttgirl310 so they can readopt it out for you or approve the gifting
-Dogons may only be adopted out by approved artists- you may not adopt them out by yourself
-Please do not bother the artists or staff and be aware that we all have lives outside of the species (If you have a message or concern then please pm Muttgirl310 to discuss it)
-Be respectful to artists, staff and other members (Even if you do not win- please no rude remarks or arguments. Message me if there are any issues)

-Warnings: Only last a short time and I will speak to you about what caused the warning
-Strikes: If you have had 3+ warnings you will earn a strike and I will notify you over pm about it
-Bans: If you have gotten multiple strikes and continue to not follow the rules then you will be banned from the species and can no longer adopt from it. All of your adopts will be readopted out and you will not be allowed to participate in events. May be lifted but only by my approval.

Adopt Rules:
*Failure to comply could lead to disqualification from the adopt or loss of ability to adopt for a period of time*
-Read all rules of the adopt before posting your form (Some adopts will have specific requirements such as nonowner and not all adopts will had criteria that may be fair to all users such as requirements of art or extensive writing)
-Please do not post on every single adopt and give everyone a chance to win an adopt
-Make sure that your form is completed by the end date as artists are not required to give extensions for you to complete it
-Dogons must be named and have a gender for the archives and breeding purposes (They may identify however they wish outside this)
-If a dogon is not named within a month, the ownership may be forfeited and they will be placed back up for adoption

Customs/ Purchase Rules:
*Failure to comply could lead to rejections of forms or purchases without refund*
-Scales are to be purchased through muttgirl310 and will be added to the bank
-Customs must have a completed form and funds available at the time of purchase
-Once the form is accepted, it may not be edited in anyway- if any changes are needed you must pm muttgirl310 for approval of changes
-You may give ideas for the artist to work with but refrain from listing specific things that you want. You want to give the artist a reference to work with not an exact design
-You may redraw the items on dogon references for your own use as long as the items remain fundamentally the same- Same item but in a different style
-For items to be added to dogons, please provide proof of purchase which could be a link to the bank where the item is listed or a screenshot of the purchase

Nursery Rules:
*Failure to comply could lead to rejection of form or loss of ability to participate in breedings for that month*
-All dogons are able to breed unless specified in the post when adopted
-Please include proof of agreement if breeding with another users dogon- screenshots or quotes are ok
-The form must be completed entirely when posted with only minor edits allowed
-All previous nursery batches must be listed for each parent dogon
-Dogons have a total of 5 breeding slots and cannot breed more than that unless an extra breeding slot is applied
-Dogons can only breed once per month
-Users can participate in as many breedings as they wants but may only claim 2 pups per month (All other pups must be claimed by the other person in the breeding or be put up for adoption)
-Dogons can only breed with the opposite gender unless a Same Sex potion is purchased and applied
-Dogon must be owned for at least a week before breeding and must be named and gender specified
-To have items applied to your dogon, you must first purchase the item from the store by contacting muttgirl310
-The Nursery adult lines will vary slightly from the original main thread lines due to the nursery being made before many of the edits (The edits will have the same rarity as the main thread but may look different)
-Some traits cannot be passed down in breedings
-A Dogon must wait a week after it has grown in order for it to breed
-Runner Up adopts cannot breed with the original adopt they were won from and descendants of the two also cannot breed (Consider the RU as being related to the other adopt)
-All Nursery batches will start as an egg and hatch after 3 days. The dogon will be grown to adult in 15 days from hatching.
-If you wish to keep them on the baby lines a PPS potion must be purchased and applied before they are grown to adult.
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Meet the Dogon Staff

Postby muttgirl310 » Fri Jan 06, 2017 6:47 am

Meet the Creators of Dogons!
Species Information + Rules / Staff / Adoption + Customs / Currency, Store + Bank / Affiliates
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Species Owned By:
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Lines by:
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Full Time Artists:
None yet

Guest Artists:
Amithea
+ Dark Age +
cloudy.
.Moonlight.

Nursery Artists:
None yet

Extras Artists:
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Fan Club Moderators:
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Guest artist
-Can only do 5 Adopts total
-Can only do 5 uncommon traits
-No rare traits
-Cannot add adopts to events

Full Time Artists
-No restrictions on how many adopts they can make a week
-Can do up to 10 uncommon traits a week
-Can do 3 rare traits a month
-Can add adopts into the Events

Nursery Artists:
-Work within the nursery with the breedings and growing up of the pups

Extras Artists:
-Do odds and ends art jobs for the species (little art pieces)
-Is up for hire by the members of the species to draw pieces of their Dogons

Fan Club Moderators:
- Moderates the Fanclub
-Makes sure everyone is following the rules
-Answers questions or concerns

Want to be part of the Staff?
Check out the artist comp!
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And the Nursery artist comp!
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call me mutt. I own a species on
here called Dogons and am always
willing to help out whenever I can
so do not be afraid to reach out or
send me a pm. I can help a little
with adoption forms and do some
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Adoptions, Customs and Nursery

Postby muttgirl310 » Fri Jan 06, 2017 6:50 am



Up For Adoption
These are all the Dogons currently up for Adoption
#32
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#65
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#80
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#82
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#83
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#84
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#85
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#86
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#87
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Up For Readoption
These Dogons are looking for a new home!
None at the Moment
Name:
Gender:
Previous Owner:

Would You Like a Custom?
Price: 75 Scales
CLOSED
Customs will reopen for a short amount of time until all 3 slots are filled each week for the time being

Form:
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Username:
Dogon's Name:
Dogon's Gender:
Colors Desired: (Complicated Designs may also cost extra)
Traits Wanted: (See below for List)
Custom Traits: (Custom traits will cost extra depending on how complicated they are)


(Custom traits are anything that is not on the list and includes things such as hair, line edits, or more unique things- the price for custom traits will depend on the difficulty to do them for your custom but will range from an extra 10 Scales to 50+ Scales)

Slots:
1.
Staff Assigned:
2.9Tailedfox
Staff Assigned: BecNessMonster
3. Tepin
Staff Assigned:
Customs are
CLOSED
Thank you!


Available Traits for Customs:
(You are only allowed 3 Uncommon Traits)

Wings: (Pick 1)
Single Color Dragon Wings: Very Common
Double Colored Dragon Wings: Common
Torn Wings: Uncommon
No Wings: Uncommon
Damselfly Wings: Uncommon

Tail: (Pick 1)
Wolf Tail: Common
Dragon Tail: Common
Feline Tail: Common
Fox Tail: Common
Long Fluffy Tail: Uncommon
Bobbed Tail: Uncommon
Serpent Tail: Uncommon
Dual serpent tail: Uncommon
Spiked Dragon Tail: Uncommon

Eyes: (Pick 1)
Single Color Eyes: Very Common
Double Colored Eyes: Uncommon

Ears: (Pick 1)
Pointed Ears: Very Common
One Folded Ear: Common
Floppy Ears: Uncommon
Ripped Ears: Uncommon
Lynx Ears: Uncommon

Scales, Horns and Extras: (Pick Up to 3- Only 1 Uncommon)
No Horns: Very Common
Spikes along back: Common
Face Spikes: Common
Dragon Face Spikes: Common
Dragon Jaw Spikes: Common
Long Claws: Common
Long Teeth: Common
Whiskers: Common
Short Whisker: Uncommon
Long Whiskers: Uncommon
Saber Teeth: Uncommon
Devil Horns: Uncommon
Spiraled Horns: Uncommon
Long Back Spikes: Uncommon
Short Straight Horns: Uncommon
Curled Horns on Head: Uncommon
Extra Scales on Body: Uncommon


(Trait list will change as time goes on so when Customs are closed it will not be available)



Dogon Nursery!
Where you may breed your Dogons together in order to get offspring

Dogon Breeding Form:
(Please delete what is in brackets)
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[b]Username(s);[/b]
[b]Parents; [/b] (please include Names and link to ref)
[b]Hex codes; [/b] (optional, but definitely preferred)
[b]Previous breedings; [/b]
[b]Other; [/b](If you want accessory, number of babs (max 2))


Rules:
Dogons can only be bred a total of 5 times within their life and no more than twice in a given month.
Not all Dogons mate for life but they do typically find a partner and remain with that partner
While a pairing of dogons can be same sex, they can only breed if they are opposite sexes (May change later)
There must be at least 1-2 weeks between breedings
A pair can be bred as soon as they are matched up
A dogon must be owned for at least 3 days before it can be bred
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call me mutt. I own a species on
here called Dogons and am always
willing to help out whenever I can
so do not be afraid to reach out or
send me a pm. I can help a little
with adoption forms and do some
art, although it's not amazing.

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Dogon Accessories

Postby muttgirl310 » Fri Jan 06, 2017 6:53 am

Currency and Store:
Species Information + Rules / Staff / Adoption + Customs / Currency, Store + Bank / Affiliates

Currency:
The Currency of the Dogon species are glittery scales that can either be given out to runner up forms in adoptions or purchased using CS pets or C$ using the conversion tables below
These scales can be used for customs and for accessories and items in the store!

Conversion of Pets to Scales
OMGSC- 5 Scales
Very Common- 10 Scales
Common- 15 Scales
Uncommon- 20 Scales
Rare- 30 Scales
Very Rare- 50 Scales
OMGSR- 150 Scales

Conversion of C$ to Scales
1C$ - 10 Scales
For every 5 C$ add an extra 5 Scales
Ex: 5C$ would be 50 Scales + extra 5
10 C$ would be 100 Scales + extra 10

Store:
This is where you can purchase items using your scales
Accessories:
Plain Bracelet- 5 Scales
Stud Earring- 5 Scales
Hoop Earring- 7 Scales
Decorated Bracelet- 10 Scales
Feather- 10 Scales
Scarf- 15 Scales
Set of Bangle Bracelets- 15 Scales
Small Scars- 15 Scales
Plain Necklace- 15 Scales
Plain Collar- 15 Scales
Leg Warmers- 15 Scales
Bandana- 20 Scales
Locket- 20 Scales
Custom Pendant- 20 Scales
Studded Collar- 20 Scales
Battle Scars- 25 Scales
Harness- 25 Scales

Items:
Aging Potion: 45 Scales
(Allows you to skip the wait and age up your dogon one stage)
Small Nest Size: 50 Scales
(Allows you to pick if you only want 1 dogon in your batch)
Large Litter Ticket (Only Available in Events)
(Automatically gives you two eggs from the litter)
Extra Breeding Slot (Max 1 Per Person): 60 Scales
(Allows you to have one extra breeding slot on a dogon)
Customize an Egg: 75 Scales
(Allows you to pick the colors and some traits to be passed on to a single egg)
Switching Potion: (Only Available in Events)
(Allows you to change one trait on your dogon to another within the same type and rarity)
Pup Potion: 100 Scales (Not available yet)
(Allows you to keep or make your Dogon a PPS)


Traits:
Custom Hair- 100 Scales
(Prices are subject to change and are not absolute as of this moment)
(More Coming Soon)

Bank:
This is where I keep track of the number of scales and items each person has
Please notify me if you think there is an error
BecNessMonster- 144 Scales
1 Switching Potion
LordFlabebe- 0 Scales
1 Custom Ticket
JennDragon- 0 Scales
1 Custom Ticket
9tailedfox- 225 Scales
LadyChinaAru- 208 Scales
Ultimatefangirling- 325 Scales
Xostef202- 10 Scales
Silverwolfyahoo- 24 Scales
Saraphena- 0 Scales
Cloudy.- 10 Scales
panserbjørn- 75 Scales
Snakescales- 5 Scales
McShmalex- 5 Scales
Brandy6- 72 Scales
1 Switching Potion
The_Golden_Jinx- 10 Scales
3 Switching Potion
Tepin- 23 Scales
Aging Potion
TrashFan- 22 Scales
1 Large Litter Ticket
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call me mutt. I own a species on
here called Dogons and am always
willing to help out whenever I can
so do not be afraid to reach out or
send me a pm. I can help a little
with adoption forms and do some
art, although it's not amazing.

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Affiliates/ Support Us

Postby muttgirl310 » Fri Jan 06, 2017 6:55 am

Affiliates:
Species Information + Rules / Staff / Adoption + Customs / Currency, Store + Bank / Affiliates
If you would like to have your species added here, just message me (muttgirl310) and I will add you!

Mutt's Character Shop:
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Mutt's Snake Adopts:http://www.chickensmoothie.com/Forum/viewtopic.php?f=32&t=3276863

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Stamps!
If you wish to make a stamp design then just contact me for info!
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If you would like to make art of our Mascot Current please message me!
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Thank you silverwolfahoo for this piece of art of Current!!
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The first of the artist customized banners also by silverwolfahoo!
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Thanks to Shadowflight13 for the art of Current!
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Thank you to Msepoh for more art of Current! It looks wonderful!
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Hey I am Muttgirl but feel free to
call me mutt. I own a species on
here called Dogons and am always
willing to help out whenever I can
so do not be afraid to reach out or
send me a pm. I can help a little
with adoption forms and do some
art, although it's not amazing.

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Traits and Rarities

Postby muttgirl310 » Fri Jan 06, 2017 7:38 am

Rarities:
*Images may be coming soon*
Wings:
Single Color Dragon Wings: Very Common
Double Colored Dragon Wings: Common
Torn Wings: Uncommon
No Wings: Uncommon
Damselfly Wings: Uncommon
Small Dragon Wings: Rare
Dragonfly Wings(Coming Soon): Rare
Feathered Wings (Coming soon): Rare
Tiny Angel Wings (Coming Soon): Very Rare


Tail:
Wolf Tail: Common
Dragon Tail: Common
Feline Tail: Common
Fox Tail: Common
Long Fluffy Tail: Uncommon
Bobbed Tail: Uncommon
Serpent Tail: Uncommon
Dual serpent tail: Uncommon
Spiked Dragon Tail: Uncommon
No Tail: Rare
Double Dragon Tails: Rare
Double Wolf Tails: Rare
Candle Tail: Rare (New!)
Three Wolf Tails: Very Rare
Dr. Seuss Tail: Very Rare (New!)


Eyes:
Single Color Eyes: Very Common
Double Colored Eyes: Uncommon
Two Different Colored Eyes: Rare
Glowing Eyes: Rare


Ears: (New!)
Pointed Ears: Very Common
One Folded Ear: Common
Floppy Ears: Uncommon
Ripped Ears: Uncommon
Lynx Ears: Uncommon
Coming soon:
Fennec Fox Ears: Uncommon
Small Ears: Rare


Eyes:
COMING SOON
Normal Eyes
Solid Color Eyes
Diamond Pupils
Round Pupils
Snake Eyes
Cat Eyes


Scales, Horns and Extras:
No Horns: Very Common
Spikes along back: Common
Face Spikes: Common
Dragon Face Spikes: Common
Dragon Jaw Spikes: Common
Long Claws: Common
Long Teeth: Common
Whiskers: Common
Short Whisker: Uncommon
Long Whiskers: Uncommon
Saber Teeth: Uncommon
Devil Horns: Uncommon
Spiraled Horns: Uncommon
Long Back Spikes: Uncommon
Short Straight Horns: Uncommon
Curled Horns on Head: Uncommon
Extra Scales on Body: Uncommon
Boar Tusks: Uncommon (New!)
S Horns : Uncommon (New!)
Eye Scales: Rare
Straight Horns: Rare
Long Straight Horns: Rare
Double Prong Straight Horns: Rare (New!)
Curved Tip Horns: Rare
Glowing Horns: Very Rare
Unicorn Horn: Very Rare



Mutations (Very Rare):
All of these traits are things that only happen once in a long time. While each does not have an individual rarity, the chances of getting a mutation are Very Rare. These traits have only a small possibility of being passed on to generations (although some are not able to be passed on at all).
Artists must ask permission before using any mutations
Blind
Albino
Melanism
Bald
Missing Leg
Missing Eye
Thick Mane
(More coming soon)



Event Traits:
All these traits can only be gained during an event and will be listed under which event they originally came from (Some of these cannot be passed on to offspring and will be noted with a NIH for Non-Inheritable)

Summer Event:
Ghost Mutation (NIH)
Elk Antlers: Rare
Mule Deer Antlers: Rare
White tail Deer Antlers: Rare
Moose Antlers: Rare
Deer Tail: Uncommon

Halloween Event:
Munchkin: Very Rare
Cheek Fluff: Rare
Back Mane: Rare
Paw Fluff: Rare
Overbite: Rare
Underbite: Rare
Evil Unicorn: Rare
Bat Ears: Rare

New Years Event:
Glowing Markings: Very Rare (NIH)
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so do not be afraid to reach out or
send me a pm. I can help a little
with adoption forms and do some
art, although it's not amazing.

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Re: New Species! Dogons: WIP

Postby BecNessMonster » Fri Jan 06, 2017 8:29 am

Marking :3

Please bump things I have forgotten// My Dogons //
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Re: New Species! Dogons: Now Open!

Postby muttgirl310 » Fri Jan 06, 2017 9:49 am

We are now Open! Feel free to mark the post and check out the artist comp!
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here called Dogons and am always
willing to help out whenever I can
so do not be afraid to reach out or
send me a pm. I can help a little
with adoption forms and do some
art, although it's not amazing.

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Re: New Species! Dogons: Now Open!

Postby cloudy. » Fri Jan 06, 2017 11:07 am

marking!
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Re: New Species! Dogons: Now Open!

Postby muttgirl310 » Sat Jan 07, 2017 9:04 am

Bump!
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Hey I am Muttgirl but feel free to
call me mutt. I own a species on
here called Dogons and am always
willing to help out whenever I can
so do not be afraid to reach out or
send me a pm. I can help a little
with adoption forms and do some
art, although it's not amazing.

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