"The" Rares List Guide [main list updated]

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"The" Rares List Guide [main list updated]

Postby Hekomi » Sat Feb 20, 2010 3:11 pm

Welcome to "The" Rares List
Please read all the following information BELOW before posting here
If you don't bother to read the rules, it will be very clear! Your post will be reported and deleted!


    Hello, and welcome to the Rares List Guide! This thread was originally created by Keatchi, so that we (the users of CS) could have a place to make a list and discuss the value of CS pets. This list is not official, it is user-created by a number of knowledgeable CS folk. While we try to keep it as up-to-date and accurate as possible, it is by no means the absolute authority on pet value.

    The pets are listed in order of most to least valuable. These values are determined by a combination of rarity and demand, the two main factors which decide how much a pet is worth. Because of this, you may see that some pets are higher on the list than others, even though they are less rare (for example, the moonswirl is less rare than a zebra, it's just a lot more popular).

    Notes
    1. Please keep in mind that the gap in value between the lines on this list may vary significantly. Some pets right above one another may be fair swaps, while others might have a large gap in worth.
    2. These are opinions and not straight facts. The placement has been determined by many people saying their opinion and coming to a general consensus.
    3. This list takes into account both demand AND rarity.

*RULES - read before posting*

  • If you want to know where the new URs will be placed, use the search function. They won't be put on the list until demand dies down and we can assess their value.
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    Please consider whether it would belong better in one of the following two threads instead:

    If you are looking for advice on how much your pet is worth, go here.
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  • If you're looking for where a pet is, search for the name of it using CTRL + F or the searchbar. Try searching only part of the word, like "Angel" for Angel Advent or "uni" for Nick Unicorn, for better results. If you do not know the name check out the list of dog names or if it is not a dog, use any of the guides here.
  • If you want to suggest a change in placement, provide reasons why, not just "I think it should be moved"
  • If you want to know if x pet is on the list, look first at the pets listed here. If it is not there, check it's rarity. If it's not even a VR it's probably not even close to being on the list. If it is, try using the search function to see if it has been mentioned before.
  • Random rares are not and will probably never make the list.
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Below you will find the main, september and advent lists.
"Main" List | September List | Advent List | Thank Yous & FAQ
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The "Main" Rares List

Postby DaDwarf » Sat Feb 20, 2010 3:14 pm

The "Main" Rares List
click for pictures list pt. 1 . pt. 2
Sunjewel = UR Tiger Dog
Moonswirl
UR B-Wolf
Plains Zebra = Grevy's Zebra
Mountain Zebra = Dogtag
UR Cat
UR Banana = UR Cucumber
July PPS = Coontail Dog =Sunback
Ur Aussie/Cookie dog
UR Lion
Nonjewel Sundog = Non-Coon Dog = Non-Swirl Moon Dog = Non-Tag
Ur Flower Pot
Growing White July
Nick Unicorn = UR Mint Horse
--- Big Gap ---&
Spotted Tribal = BE Galaxy
Purple Toxic
CE Galaxy
Blue Toxic
Blue Sorbet = Green Sorbet = Yellow Sorbet = Pink Sorbet = UR Grapes
Joker
UR Butterbun* = Gearback Tribal
Red Toxic = UR Rat = 09 UR Dog
Green Toxic = Yellow Toxic = UR Malk
Nonballoon
Line Tribal = Joker Bunny = Ur Ice Cat
Rainbow Mane
Pink Balloon = Blue Balloon = Winged Wood Angel
Light Speckled Rat = Medium Speckled Rat = Heavy Speckled Rat
UR Purple Horse = UR Apple = Dark Heart Rat
Skeleton PPS
Rose PPS = Dark Pink Shima B-Wolf = Blue Dragon PPS
Red-X PPS = Wolf PPS =Orange Cerberus


*UR Butterbun is not actually UR, just named for the UR Butterfly Wolf it was designed after.
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Hekomi wrote:
Milkyway0353 wrote:o: Whoa those are big changes. -goes to memorize list-
I have a question:
Between the UR Mint Horse and Spotted Tribal it says "Big Gap" and it sounds kinda of vauge to me, could i get a brief explanation of how big it is? Like is it a few high advents, some septs, or what? Sorry if its already been mentioned, but it kinda confused me.

The nons go for 3x the sorbets. People don't remember this so I put the big gap there. I intend to break down the rares list when I get time on my guide to understanding rarities I just haven't had time for that yet.
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The September List

Postby DaDwarf » Sat Feb 20, 2010 3:14 pm

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The Advent List

Postby DaDwarf » Sat Feb 20, 2010 3:15 pm

The Advent List
if a pet is in the same group as another, that means it is worth THE SAME!
(note that there is a significant gap in worth between these and the September '08 pets)
click for pictured list

Sockdog, Green-fronted Holly dog, Eat Me, Brown Sleipnir

Hyena, Timberwolf, Green Liontail

Teal Butterbun, Red Butterbun


Grey Border Collie, Brown Border Collie, Brown Cookie, Pink Cookie, Dark Grey Tag husky, Vixen, Celestial PPS, Bone PPS, Desert/Orange-swirl PPS, Heart PPS, Light Grey Speckled husky, B&W Pointy-eared Border Collie, Ice Blue Swirl, Blue Flower dog, Purple Star bobtail, Purple Heart/Husky, Mustard Heart/Husky, Cream Advent, Pale Pink/Blue-spotted, Pink Heart, Hollyfox Dog, Boar PPS, Dice PPS, Jeweled Liontail, Nonjewel Liontail

Hyena Bun, Royal Bob Bun, Blue Sorbet Bun, Green Toxic Bun, Pink Balloon Bun, Spotted Tribal Bun, Moonswirl Bun, Dogtag Bun, Heart Advent Bun, BE Galaxy Bun, BMD Bun, Seal Store Dogs, Green Android, White Lolita Dog

Peppermint Eared, Christmas Tree dog, Cream Santa Hat Advent, Red-fronted Holly, Hollyfox cat, Snowflake B-wolf, Candy Cane B-wolf, Elf Rat, Brown Santa Cat, White Santa Cat, Nick Cake Dog, Kiss PPS, Evil PPS, Raven Dog, Patchwork Dog, Flop Blood Dog, Tufted Blood Dog,PPS Cocoon

Grey Mini Husky, Snowflake Lion, Brown Red-String Horse, White Tinsel horse, Rudolph Rat, Santa Rat, Tinsel Lion, Roadkill PPS, Orange, Yellow, Pink Punk Dogs, Yellow, Red, Blue Androids

Peppermint Bun, Raver Bun, Ornament PPS, Emerald Bwolf,

Candy Cane Horse, Pink/Purple/White string horse, Pink Mini Husky, Buckskin PPS, Roadkill Pony, Zombie Pony

Grown White Scarf dog, Blue Snowflake Scarf dog, Fireworks PPS, Rose Rat, Dark Wood Dog, Bumblebee Spider,Malk PPS Pup, Chocolate Bun, Lilac Bun, Black Dutch Bun, Grey Dutch Bun, Spiderwing Bwolf, Ghost Cat, Purple Sleipnir, Cobweb Bun, Clockwork Bunny, Marionette Dog

* italics = not from Advent '08 but equivalent in value.
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Thank Yous & FAQ

Postby Hekomi » Sat Feb 20, 2010 3:15 pm

Thank you to...
Keatchi
Deja
Jeweled
DiabolicReality
Atwood
Starstreak
Australia09
Seasonal <3
Hekomi
DaDwarf
Pideaux
And anyone else who has helped us place the pets!



FAQ


    So is this purely about rarity or demand mixed in?
    dejaentendu wrote:I think I read earlier that this list is a combination of rarity and demand - which kinda converge in a way that creates a pet's "worth." Even though a pet like the BMD is just as rare as any other of those Advent outcomes, you couldn't expect anyone to trade it for like, a Cream Advent. Rarity is how many pets are out there, and demand affects their availability.


    Wait! You guys and the rarity on the actual pet disagree... I'm so confused! Oh, and why can't I get an uncommon Jan 09 for an uncommon January 2010?
    Chryseis wrote:All new players need to do is look at the rarity and then look at the date. There is a 3 month "rule" so to speak. If the pet you want is an uncommon from January 09, and your offering an uncommon from March 09, then people will likely trade. You have to take dates into account. So, if you have an uncommon from March 2010, and you want an uncommon from January 09, then people wont trade with you. . . as there is a year between the adoption dates. The older a pet is, the harder to obtain it becomes and the more you have to pay for it. But keep in mind that people have their own rarity system that you can't see. . . to be safe in your trades, try your best to offer someone something off their wishlist. If you can't offer something on their wishlist and you want a "Very Rare" pet then they will most likely get angry at you. So stick to what they want, or try to get the more common pets on your wishlist, before you go after the really rare pets . . .


    Ugh, everybody just can't decide who is rarer! How about we go ask Nick for some statistics?
    Australia09 wrote:I PMed nick this message.

    Australia09 wrote:Hi Nick.

    We where wondering if you or tess would mind helping us with this list, viewtopic.php?f=20&t=112366 as no one can deside on what rarest in order. So would you or tess have that kind of data that you would share


    Regards aussie09

    Australia09 wrote:
    Nick wrote:Yes, we have that information but no, we have no plans to share it. Sorry.. :)

    ok that my reply from nick so there goes that idea


    What's the difference between demand and rarity? I just don't get it.
    Atwood wrote:Value is a different thing from rarity anyway - there may be more Sunbacks on CS than Dogtags, but there also a lot more Sundog hoarders because they're such a popular design, so there may be fewer Sunbacks actually available than there are Dogtags. To assess functional rarity you have to look at how many are in circulation, which you can only find out from other traders. ;)


    I offered a Green Toxic for a Yellow Toxic, which both are equal to each other on the same list, and they cancelled the trade!
    Keatchi wrote:Well, you have to bear in mind that though we try to perfect this list, there is always going to be a few errors- Use this as a helper, not a must use handbook. ;)
    While peoples individual views of a pet's value don't affect its actual rarity, they do absolutely affect what will happen when you are trading with said individual. Just because two pets are a fair swap for one another doesn't mean your trade partner has to accept.

    Now I offered a Red Toxic and a Sorbet for a Yellow Toxic, which is more than enough, and they cancelled the trade because they didn't like either of the dogs I offered! How is that fair??? :evil:
    Chryseis wrote:The thing about pets is, its all about what people are WILLING to trade them for. There are like 3 groups on CS. The People who KNOW their rarities and who will pay a sun jewel for a zebra. Then there are people who just trade what they think is a good trade, as in they will trade a rainbow mane for a guinea pig because they prefer the guinea pig to the horse. And then there are the people who are only interested in adopting and care nothing for rarity or value. And those people are often the new players who get ninja'd and scammed. Store items are a bit of a hassle as well, because people like me who pay REAL money for the items, dont want to trade them away for just a common pet from the past few months. . . . Its all about supply, demand and what people are willing to actually pay for . . . its hardly every about rarity and value. . . . to be honest its more about looks xD


    The list of pets by demand doesn't look right! A lot more people want the Gray Dragon than the Sun dog!
    Keatchi wrote:This Is The Technically Correct Version by how many users have them on their wishlist, while ours is just one mixed with rarity and demand. Supply and demand, catch my drift?
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Re: "The" Rares List Guide

Postby Jeweled » Sat Feb 20, 2010 3:17 pm

Spock wrote:
himorganhere wrote:
Seasonal <3 wrote:I think you should make "Zebra" a bit more detailed since there are three types. ;) I know one of them is more in-demand than the others, or maybe just rarer.


The plains zebra is the rarest, and I believe the Grevy's may be the most common. Even if they are all the rarest pets on the site. C:

Ah, thanks. ^^


Don't take my word on the Grevy's - but it has been confirmed that the Plains is the rarest one. ^^
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Re: "The" Rares List Guide

Postby Black As Midnight » Sat Feb 20, 2010 3:17 pm

the list:
plains zebra
other zebras
Banana
Dogtag
Moonswirl
Sunjewel
all UR's (beside bannana)
BE galaxy
CE galaxy
white July PPS
toxics
wood angel

that is what i would list them as
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Re: "The" Rares List Guide

Postby Memories » Sat Feb 20, 2010 3:18 pm

Hmmm... I think UR B-wolf is the rarest UR going by demand.
And UR Cat next rarest by demand.
Not sure about statistic rarity

Thanks for making this thread btw ^^
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Re: "The" Rares List Guide

Postby Keatchi » Sat Feb 20, 2010 3:19 pm

Sweet, no prob.
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Re: "The" Rares List Guide

Postby Seasonal <3 » Sat Feb 20, 2010 3:20 pm

Wait, you forgot a Zebra! XD
I'm not sure what it's called, though. But I know there are three...
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