Shooting Stars wrote:Lady Sif wrote:Trust me, as someone whose done that often people get hostile quickly when you do that. I've had to file reports over how people reacted to a simple "Read my rules" before.
And for the What will you offer for this, that usually involves flashing/holding out a deserved pet that the person wanted, and sure they could just add a pet on your side, but if you don't have anything of value then they'd likely think twice before sending the trade. Usually when people send those sorts of trades, they often either want insane prices (which they would have to be upfront about when they send the trade in the first place, meaning you could cancel right away instead of getting your hopes up), or they often don't really want to trade the pet, which means they wouldn't want to do this with someone with suggestions off since the person can always accept the trade.
Not saying item groups wouldn't be cool too, but having one thing doesn't mean we couldn't also have this!
If people get hostile over a trade message, that's on them, and they probably do that to cancelled trades on a regular basis no matter what the trade was about.
(I guess "Read my rules" can be taken as a little rude. I always just say "Sorry, but no thank you! Please read my rules the next time you want to trade with me. ^-^" with explaining what rule(s) they broke.)
Usually when I get a "what for this" trade, it's pretty obvious that the trade is going nowhere. Especially since there are signs if they actually want to trade, or if they want to see if you're going to overpay for some random wishlist pet.
I guess I worded what I originally said awkwardly, but I meant that people could always add a placeholder pet that was worth a lot more on your side (like your Grinner dog for a 09 rare) to prevent accidental trades, with messages like "you have suggestions turned off but i saw this pet was on your wishlist so what will you offer but dont worry about the smiley dog i added it's just a placeholder so you dont take my pet thx have a good day".
In my opinion, that is a lot more annoying that a simple "what for this" suggestion.
I really doubt someone would send a "what for this" trade if you didn't have anything remotely of value (besides flashing, but does flashing really occur that much? It's probably only happened to me a handful of times of the time I've been here, and it's always rareslist pets), since they probably looked through your pets before sending an offer to make sure you have plenty of rares.
Yes, people getting hostile over stuff is on them, however, that doesn't make it suck any less when you have to deal with harassment like that.
I feel like all your arguments are kinda coming back to 'but people could find some way to ask/do this anyways' which I covered on the first page:
That being said there is a major point I have to make here on all arguments not just yours.
1) It could reduces the amounts of trades that people get
2) You can just cancel trades
Now I would like to point out that these same two arguments apply to locking pets. If you lock pets it will reduce the amount of trades you get and you could simply cancel trades for them if you didn't lock them. So why have the ability to lock pets/items/C$? Because these trades get annoying, because it is a waste of time to go through and cancel trades that breaks rules and frankly it is just annoying.
Also on the first point, this would be an optional, if people want less trades that is their choice.
Sure,
some people will find a way to do it anyways (like using suggestions to try and offer on locked pets), but the majority of people, when not given an easy option to do something, will give up. If we make sending these sorts of trades harder/risker, less people will do them, and that means less time wasted.
There also just isn't really a good reason not to do it. It's 100% optional for users, so nobody has to use it unless they want to, reduces drama in the long run and would make a fair number of users happier. Sure, it's possibly people will try to find ways to get around it, but that could be said for literally any change ever, and it would still help to reduce these sorts of things.
