The Daemian Union (TDU) V2 (POSTING OPEN!)

[Garrus]

Rofl, what evidence? If there was acceptable, objective, solid scientific evidence supporting the existence of things like ghosts it would be A Big Deal and people like me wouldn't say "they don't exist".

[Darkest.Nation]

{ Those ghost shows? Your local medium? The people who experience it? Those photographs? Those audios? Thermo cams? What do you think is on there if it's not a ghost? Is it all lies?

I understand that you can't slap a chunk of a ghost's... leg on a table and pick at it, or take a sample of it's chemical or atomic make up, but what else is there to be found besides what's listed above?

Anways, moving threads.}

Has anyone met or talked to someone with a primate/ape daemian? I'm considering a western lowland gorilla as perhaps a form, and there seems to be such a small amount of knowledge about these people and/or daemons... just curious.

[Lycrisa]

Hey there, I'm popping in randomly.

I wouldn't go so far to say as ghosts aren't real. Maybe we just don't have a technology advanced enough to prove it yet.
There was a time when we didn't know there were other planets. I'm not saying your wrong, I'm just putting it out there that they Might actually be there. You can't prove without a doubt they are there, but you can't disprove them either.
Personally I don't believe in ghosts so much as energy manifesting in odd ways. Like ball lightning.

I find this thread a bit odd personally.
I've been a member of the deamon forum for about two years now, and this seems a little more hostile than I'm used to.

*raises hand* My guy, navta is a ocelot. Super sarcastic and easily irritated.

It was my understanding that primates forms aren't very common because they are similar to humans.
A human representing a human is a little redundant. But eh, who knows *shrug*

[Darkest.Nation]

{We just got into a disagreement... and a few new members don't read, I guess. // I've personally wondered what a ghost is "made of". I know it is pretty much a ball of energy, but is there a certain atomic make-up?}

Primates aren't exactly like humans (I don't think, to an extent), as we are now investigating with dolphins and the like... but very similar. I dunno, it still has un-human characteristics. If we looked at intellegence and dexterity, the crow and some domestic birds might as well be counted out of the race, too.

Found this link, but a lot of the similarities seem to be redundant, as those facts can be seen in many other species. (2 and 3 especially) http://hannahz.hubpages.com/hub/Gorilla ... n-We-Think

Hmm, by the way I think about it, would a gorilla form be kind of a mirror-image, like the concept of daemionism itself. I would still view us as different in ways, but there's parts that are similar. That's basically what every daemon is... right?

Eeeh, form finding is tedious.

[England.]

{We just got into a disagreement... and a few new members don't read, I guess. // I've personally wondered what a ghost is "made of". I know it is pretty much a ball of energy, but is there a certain atomic make-up?}

Primates aren't exactly like humans (I don't think, to an extent), as we are now investigating with dolphins and the like... but very similar. I dunno, it still has un-human characteristics. If we looked at intellegence and dexterity, the crow and some domestic birds might as well be counted out of the race, too.

Found this link, but a lot of the similarities seem to be redundant, as those facts can be seen in many other species. (2 and 3 especially) http://hannahz.hubpages.com/hub/Gorilla ... n-We-Think

Hmm, by the way I think about it, would a gorilla form be kind of a mirror-image, like the concept of daemionism itself. I would still view us as different in ways, but there's parts that are similar. That's basically what every daemon is... right?

Eeeh, form finding is tedious.

{I believe in ghosts. I believe that there is a door when you die and it only doesn't appear when you have unfinished business(eg. a murder, tell someone you love them, ect.) }

I would think a chimp would be a very unlikely daemon as they have different personallities like humans.
Not sure about gorillas though.

[Darkest.Nation]

Each dog has a different personality, so does each dolphin... the list goes on. I don't think chimps would be any different...

[England.]

I mean they don't have specific personallity features a, unlike other animals (eg. dogs are considered loyal and brave, cats are considered soliteriy[can't spell xD], foxes are sly, dolphines are friendly ect. and I know there are some excpetions as I have 5 cats and 2 of them are very sociable to eachother) were as chimps have very different personallities.

I don't want an arguement so could we end this please?

[Darkest.Nation]

Horses can be very different, like chimps.

A chimp can be self-righteous, independent, emotional, stobborn, dictating... but so can a horse, and so can a human. Are there any sorts of personality traits seen in chimps and humans that aren't in horses, dogs or cats?

[England.]

I don't want an arguement so could we end this please?

[Darkest.Nation]

This isn't an arguement, it's a discussion. We're discussing and comparing personality traits of different animals to see if primates (and others) are a viable form. Unless we aren't?...